Frank Guetherman
FRANCIS W. GUETHERMAN, who boxed professionally under the name of Tip Gorman was born on September 18, 1900. He was the oldest son of Clara and John William Guetherman, coming before brother John, born in July of 1902. The Guetherman family was living at 1228 North 32nd Street in Cramer Hill when the Census was taken in 1910, and were still at that address in the fall of 1918. His father worked as a clothes cutter.
Frank Guetherman had married by the summer of 1923. Daughter Doris was born on March 31st of the following year, and a son, Arthur, came later. The 1927 Directory shows Francis and Hazel Guetherman residing at 3229 Farragut Avenue in Cramer Hill. He was then working as a welder. By 1929 they had moved to 932 North 34th Street.
Frank Guetherman had another career during the 1920s, as a professional boxer. Records are incomplete as of this writing but newspaper accounts indicate that Frank Guetherman, fighting as a welterweight under the ring name of Tip Gorman, was quite successful as a club fighter in North Jersey and in the Camden Philadelphia area. He retired sometime in late 1927 or early 1928. One of his bouts was against North Camden-based fighter Young O’Connor, whose real name was Caesar Campana Sr., and who went on to own and operate a number of bars in Camden.
On March 1, 1928 Francis Guetherman was appointed to the Camden Police Department along with the following men: Edward Shapiro, August Riehm, William Schriver, Walter Vecander, John V. Wilkie, Earl Wright, Edward Cahill, Marshall Thompson, Stanley Bobiak, Paul Edwards, Leon Feltz, George Getley, Joseph Lack, Thomas Stanton, Otto Toperzer, and Frank Wilmot.
Frank Guetherman returned to professional boxing in September of 1928 at Convention Hall in Camden. He came away with a referee’s decision after eight rounds, although by all accounts the fans and local press thought otherwise.
By 1947 Frank Guetherman had been promoted to Sergeant. He was then living with his wife Hazel at 411 North 38th Street in East Camden. Adult daughter Doris Guetherman then also resided at that address.
After retiring from the police department Frank Guetherman eventually moved to Beach Haven, New Jersey. He was still a resident of Beach Haven when he died on February 3, 1988. He was survived by his wife, son and daughter. Hazel Guetherman passed away exactly six years after her husband, on February 3, 1994. Doris Guetherman joined her parents on August 5, 2000.
Gorman Meets Test Against Joe Bashara
Camden Courier-Post —
GORMAN MEETS TEST AGAINST JOE BASHARA
Hard-Hitting Middleweights Meet in Prelim to Forgione-McGorgary Bout Tuesday
ALLEN FIGHTS MURPHY
Successful so far in a comeback campaign launched recently, Joe Bashara, hard-hitting middleweight from Baltimore, will stack up against a tough customer in one of the preliminary bouts at the all-star show arranged by the Matthew Purnell Post, 518, Veterans of Foreign Wars, at the Camden Convention Hall next Tuesday. Tip Gorman faces Bashara in the prelim to the Forgione-McGorgary main event.
Roxie Allen faces Tommy Murphy in the semi-final; Al Gordon meets Jesse Gosa in another prelim; and Leon Lucas makes his professional debut against Muaby Brown.
There should be plenty of action when the hard-hitting Tip tackles the tough Bashara. The windup Tuesday brings together Vincent Forgione, the Philladelphia Italian whose clever milling has marked him as one of the best local middleweights now going, and Babe McCorgary, the New York slugger who is looking for a comeback.
Camden’s fighting cop, Gorman, after a string of victories up North Jersey, gained favor here before his retirement, and his comeback should cause no little interest. Tip’s manager, BooBoo Hoff, has matched him with one of the toughest around in Bashara.
Bashara has been swapping victories with the best in his class. He has decisioned tough Tommy McGreal, the first local man to do so, and he split two decisions with clever George Manley. Bashara figures on repeating his 1927 win over the Camdenite. It was a bout in which he almost blinded the Camdenite. Jess also boasts a win over Murphy.
The opening bout on the program shows Leon Lucas, former amateur champion, against Mushy Brown. Lucas was pitted against Jackie Hindle in the original matchmaking, but the bout was changed. Watson Finch is in one of the prelims against Tony Gildo. Mickey Blair is also on the card.
Vincent Forgione Wins Decision Over Babe McCorgary
Camden Courier-Post —
VINCENT FORGIONE WINS DECISION OVER BABE McCORGARY IN VETERAN’S ALL-STAR BENEFIT SHOW
Trenton ‘Phantom’ Gains Verdict Over Local Italian for Third Straight Time
LUCAS STOPS BROWN
By TOM RYAN
Before one of the largest crowds to witness a boxing show at Convention Hall this season, Vincent Forgione, of Philadelphia, won the referee’s decision over Babe McCorgary, of New York, in the eight-round main event of the all-star benefit show staged last night under the auspices of Corporal Matthew Purnell Post 518, Veterans of Foreign Wars, at Camden Convention Hall.
Tip Gorman, 159, of East Camden, won the referee’s decision over Joe Bashara, 153½, of Norfolk, Va., in the second bout.
McCorgary Takes Sound Drubbing
The principals in the earlier bouts stole the thunder away from the finalists. Forgione and McCorgary put on a fair enough show, but the prelims, particularly the Leon Lucas–Mushy Brown and Al Gordon–Jesse Goss six-rounders, were the hits of the evening.
McCorgary, who weighed 170½, was slow of foot and was unable to get out of the way of Forgione’s left jab. He was not much of a hitter, though he was powerful physically. The two were much alike—neither went to the body—but Forgione, although he failed to always follow up his opening, was the faster and more clever man.
Deputy Boxing Commissioner Edward A. Walsh instructed Referee Ray Smith to warn McCorgary for persistent holding.
Referee Smith warned McCorgary and the Babe loosened up a bit in the third, but soon assumed the watchful waiting attitude. That about sums up the bout. Still, Forgione hustled throughout and it was no fault of his that the bout didn’t come up to the expectations of the fans.
Murphy Too Fast For Allen
The Murphy–Allen fracas was fast from start to finish with Murphy doing all of the forcing and most of the leading. Tommy proved he can outsmart the downtown Italian any time he meets him. He beat him to the punch continually, shooting his left to the body and crossing his right to the jaw so often that Roxie appeared to be dazed by the avalanche of punches Tommy sent in his direction. Murphy won six out of the eight rounds, Allen barely winning the second and eighth rounds.
Tommy scored a tainted knockdown in the first. Almost as soon as the bout started, Tommy charged into Allen, let go a left hook to the body which caught Allen off balance and spilled him in his own corner. Roxie, however, was up before a count could be started. Allen’s best round was the second. They exchanged punches in a fast mixup on the ropes and Allen came off best. Tommy backing up for the first and only time of the bout.
Allen got in a couple of effective straight lefts to the head and also registered two one-two punches in the same spot. Murphy resumed the offensive from that round till the last period, peppering Roxie aplenty on every part of his anatomy.
Gordon–Goss Stage Great Fight
Murphy’s best round was the fifth. Tommy gave Roxie the works in that session. He cut loose with everything he had and Roxie finished the round with a gash under his left eye, while he also suffered a cut on his lower lip which Murphy managed to reopen in each succeeding round.
It was the third time the boys have met, and the third time that Murphy has won the decision. Referee Smith was the third man in the ring.
Gordon and Goss probably staged the best scrap of the night. Both tried hard to end the bout by a knockout, but neither accomplished their purpose. It was a great fight and Referee Tom Walters’ decision was a popular one, yet the writer felt that Gordon had slightly the better of the milling owing to his aggressiveness and his harder punching. True, Goss might have landed a few more punches than Gordon, but the latter’s carried far more power than any Goss landed. Al made the Trenton lad hold more than once from lefts to the stomach, while Gordon never once was guilty of clinching in order to escape his opponent’s punches.
The writer credited Gordon with four rounds, gave Goss three and called one even. It was a close fight due to the fact that Goss claimed the second round by a wider margin than any credited to Gordon, still to those close to the ringside. Gordon appeared to have just a shade the better of the bout.
Gorman Beats Bashara
After Bashara’s seconds, one of whom was Joe Ferguson, one of the best lightweights in the east 15 years ago, had argued about the bandages on Gorman’s hands for about five minutes the bout finally got under way, Tip and his manager winning the argument, as Gorman entered the fray without disturbing his hand coverings.
Referee Joe “Pose” Robinson awarded Gorman the decision at the close of the fuss and got the “razz” for his version of the scrap. The writer is forced to string along with the fans, as he credited Bashara with six out of the eight rounds. Joe appeared to have given Tip a pretty good lacing, both upstairs and downstairs, but Referee Robinson must have thought otherwise.
Although Gorman landed plenty of hard rights to Bashara’s head, Joe got in many more wallops, especially shots to the body, which appeared to sap Tip’s stamina early in the bout. Tip might have won, as Referee Robinson decreed, but in all fairness to Bashara it appeared as though he had won by the length of the new Broad Street subway.
Lucas Drops Brown In First
Lucas made short work of Brown. Mushy must have learned his stuff in a pony ballet. He attempted to show his dancing ability, but it didn’t go over so big with the crowd nor with Lucas. Leon merely bided his time until he could get an opening at Brown’s jaw. It finally arrived, but Lucas’ right landed too high to hit a vital spot, the punch landing on top of Brown’s head.
Yet it was hard enough to send him down on one knee, where he remained until he was counted out. However, he appeared to be in agony and when Referee Robinson had completed his count he claimed that he had wrenched the tendons in his right leg when he fell to the mat. Dr. Shannon, who was among the spectators, examined the injury and stated that Brown had wrenched the muscles in going down.
The show was staged to provide funds with which to care for members of the local veterans’ post who are in need of assistance. It could not be determined today just how much the show had netted the organization, but it is thought that a reasonable amount had been realized from the affair.
LOCAL FIGHT RESULTS
The winners, losers and their weights in the benefit boxing show held under the auspices of the Corporal Matthew Purnell Post of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, at the Convention Hall last night, follow:
Vincent Forgione, 162½ pounds, of Philadelphia, won the referee’s decision over Babe McCorgary, 170½ pounds, of New York, in eight rounds.
Tommy Kid Murphy, 141 pounds, of Trenton, won the referee’s decision over Roxie Allen, 143½ pounds, of Camden, in eight rounds. Referee—Sgt. Ray Smith.
Al Gordon, 133 pounds, of Philadelphia, and Jesse Goss, 139 pounds, of Trenton, fought eight rounds to a draw. Referee—Thomas Walters.
Tip Gorman, 159 pounds, of Camden, won referee’s decision over Joe Bashara, 153½ pounds, of Norfolk in eight rounds.
Leon Lucas, 185 pounds, of Camden, knocked out Mushy Brown, 193 pounds, of Philadelphia, in first round. Time, 2 minutes, 16 seconds. Referee—Joe Robinson.
Inspector—Edward A. Walsh. Timer—George Dean. Announcer—Joseph Schmaltz Valentine.
Gunmen Fire at Saloon, Outrace Police
Camden Morning Post • Camden Courier-Post —
MOTORISTS PUT SHOTS THROUGH SOUTH CAMDEN CAFE WINDOW
Car Sighted by Cops After Attack on ‘Bluch’ Golding’s Place
TURN OUT LIGHTS, SPEED OFF AT ORDER TO HALT
Pursuers Send 12 Bullets After Fleeing Machine; May Have Hit One
Occupants of a roadster who are alleged to have fired two shots through a saloon window escaped early today after police fired a dozen shots at the car during a chase of a mile and a half.
Shortly after 1 p. m., Thomas “Bluch” Golding, proprietor of a cafe at 650 Central Avenue, notified police of the attack.
Motorcycle Policemen Frank Guetherman and William Thorn saw the car described by Golding, at Ninth and Ferry Avenue. When the officers ordered the car to halt, its lights were extinguished and it sped away.
The police chased it to Fillmore Street, to Van Hook Street to Fourth Street where it disappeared, amid a barrage of bullets from a pump gun fired by the pursuers.
The car was seen to swerve just before it disappeared and police believe the driver may have been struck.
Camden Bridge police were notified to watch for the car, which bore a Camden county license.
Golding is a well known Eighth ward politician. He could give no reason for the attack.
Cedars of Lebanon Plan Charity Ball
Camden Courier-Post —
Floor Show to Be Added Feature of Dance Here on Saturday
Plans for a snappy floor show as an additional feature of the second annual charity ball of the Tall Cedars of Lebanon, Camden Forest No. 5, were announced yesterday.
Sonny James with the recording and broadcasting orchestra that bears his name, will supply the music—interspersing swing for the youngsters with waltzes for the old-timers.
James will present as the floor show attraction The Musical Aces and Their Queens, radio performers.
Harold Stephans, vocalist with the orchestra, also will be featured.
The ball is scheduled for Saturday night at Hotel Walt Whitman.
The general committee consists of the membership of all other committees, which are:
Executive: Joseph C. Brown, Grand Tall Cedar, ex-officio; William E. Strouse, chairman and Daniel W. Forsyth, secretary and treasurer.
Grand Conductor: Walter W. Giffins.
Reception: Paul C. Ireton, leader; George Murray, Walter Morris, William Rohrer, Harry Holt, Vic Marx, Charles Ackley, Howard Dahl, Francis Gaskill, Frederick von Nieda, and Frank Hartmann.
Tickets, Walter Mattison; door, Louis Bull and Paul B. Miles, press, Frank H. Ryan. Electrical, Wilbur Peters; wardrobe, Charles Neil, William Strong, Elmer Burgess, Taylor Kellogg and Charles Green; safety, Lieut. George W. Frost, Frank Jaggard, Russell Young and Francis Gutherman; decorations, Fred Knodel, Charles Dorrman, Harry Sykes, Harry Flowers, Merton McCormick, Edward Zimmerman and William Delbaugh.
Man, 69, Is Killed, Another Injured By Hit-Runners
Camden Courier-Post —
MAN, 69, IS KILLED, ANOTHER INJURED BY HIT-RUNNERS
Camden Victim Hurled 60 Feet by Impact; Was on Vacation
Hit-Run (Continued from Page One)
Arthur Wright had probably died of a fractured skull and internal injuries. An autopsy was ordered to be performed.
Warner was a front seat passenger in a car driven by his neighbor, Frank Cavallo, of 3109 Germantown Avenue. As they drove along the street, Captain Murphy said his car was sideswiped by the truck at the intersection of Eleventh Street when he was driving toward the bridge.
Ardiuno said the truck failed to stop. Vincent Ardiuno was injured when he attempted to assist his father. No description of the truck was obtained.
Sgt. Frank Guetherman said Warner told him he saw a car, with Sixth Street plate numbers, and he obtained a partial reading of the license number. A description and plate number were broadcast over the police radio. Shortly afterward Frank Cavallo spotted the suspected car at Sixth and Chestnut Streets. Cavallo said the front grille and the headlights of the car were smashed. The owner, Harry Plum of 1148 Baring Street, was later arrested at his home. Warner signed a hit-run charge against Plum.
Gold Badges To Be Given 15 City Cops
Camden Courier-Post —
Fifteen retired Camden City policemen will be honored by the Patrolmen’s Benevolent Association, Local 35, Wednesday night at the Police and Fire Club, 1175 Whitman Avenue.
Police Chief William H. Neale will present awards. The awards will be gold retirement badges mounted in wallets. The men receiving them will have served 20 or more years.
According to Patrolman Robert Mentz, PBA secretary, this is the first time since 1960 that retirement badges have been presented. The ceremonies will follow the organization’s business meeting.
Awards will be made to: Edward Suski, Harry Cattell, Clifford DelRossi, Frank Gutherman, John Houston, Thomas Kauffman, William Stibi, Leon Feltz, Russell Young, Henry Leutz, George Ellis, Everett Joslin, Ralph Cline, John Kaighn and former Chief Gustav Koerner.
Frank “Tip Gorman” Guetherman’s Known Professional Boxing Record
As known as of January 4, 2018 — 3 Wins, 0 by KO, 6 Losses
| Date | Opponent | Opp. Record | Location | Result | Method | Rds |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1926-01-28 | Young O’Connor | 0-0-0 | Temple Theater, Camden, NJ | L | NWS | 8 |
| 1926-04-08 | Jimmy O’Toole | 1-1-0 | Temple Theater, Camden, NJ | L | NWS | 8 |
| 1926-07-23 | Watson Finch | 0-2-0 | Camden, NJ | W | NWS | — |
| 1927-03-04 | Ray Maxwell | 11-2-1 | City A.C., Camden, NJ | L | NWS | — |
| 1927-08-12 | Tony Gildo | 1-5-0 | City A.C., Camden, NJ | L | NWS | 8 |
| — | Tony Gildo | 1-5-0 | City A.C., Camden, NJ | W | NWS | 8 |
| 1927-10-13 | Joe Mooney | 0-0-0 | New Castle, PA | L | PTS | 6 |
| 1927-11-10 | Joe Mooney | 1-1-0 | Auditorium, Wilmington, DE | L | NWS | 6 |
| 1928-09-18 | Joe Bashara | — | Convention Hall, Camden, NJ | W | Ref | 8 |